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the dark side of living in Canada's B.C.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by I'm not joking!, Dec 14, 2016.

  1. I'm not joking!

    I'm not joking! Junior Member

    Did You come to Canada searching for a life of freedom and safety?
    But You found that the Government keeps You scarcely alive and badly fed because You have to choose between paying property taxes and losing You house, or to be well fed and on the street!
    Huge income taxes every year.
    Huge demands from TransLink.
    Huge MSP fees.
    Huge gasoline taxes.
    Huge utility taxes.
    And now from under the hat of aunt Christy, "fentanyl tax" on Your home...?
    I can go on and on but My point is that in the charter of rights and freedoms We have the right to enjoy life.
    Are You enjoying Yours?
    Moreover With BC assessment and our unfriendly aunt Christy, You lost the basic right of owning a house.

    This actions against residents of BC are unpatriotic, oppressive, and abusive.

    Merry Christmas everyone!
    Please note, that My opinion is based in facts and under My right of free speech.
    Do I have that right today?
     
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  2. the mechanic

    the mechanic Active Member

    ... perhaps if residents objected more vehemently to some of the things you listed things would change. but most are programmed to oppose only those things the news media dictates -- like harmless pipelines for instance ...
     
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  3. I'm not joking!

    I'm not joking! Junior Member

    Pipelines are harmless, they produce toxic emissions, but I don't want to digress of My main topic.
    The reality is that the system needs an overhaul, the present system is not to the standards of moral and honesty that people expect from elected representatives.
    after the elections, many promises are broken stabbing on the back those who thrusted in a particular candidate, this has to be illegal, the elected representatives must know that they where selected to make Your life more bearable, but We encounter a sobering reality when We see that We are degraded to a lower stage that dehumanizes residents as a working beasts, breaking our back to pay for the whims of public enemies who take Your money or Your home, (hands up! Your money or Your life!) crooky isn't it?
    Unfortunately (as You said) people are programmed to protest for the right to smoke pot or the rights of pussy riot to offend other cultures, but not for the basic right to enjoy life in a "free Country" like Canada...? And shake from Our back the hypocrites and its demagoguery.
    I see in the news that a weak threat has raised as the question of the coming elections, but in fact the action has to be more firm and ask for justice and transparency, but for that, We have to look for a needle in a heistag and that is an incorruptible individual because We, as a whole, are Canada.
     
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  4. the mechanic

    the mechanic Active Member

    ... you forgot toll bridges. another monument to christy's lacklustre legacy. i almost found myself going over one on a recent trip to vancouver but somehow i avoided it ...
     
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  5. igor

    igor Junior Member

    Anyone knows why Christy is getting away with this indiscriminate abuse? What is behind and how is that She has evaded any audit? It drives Me crazy every Year the same shit with new invented taxes, is been said in the news that the Liberal Party of Canada has more than 300 new ways of justifying bogus taxes and push for the implementation of those, it is terrifying isn't it? All is going in a vicious circle, to illustrate one, the carbon tax, why is this needed? Mind You that creating a bylaw against pollution will be enough force to dissuade big companies to go beyond legal boundaries, but no, they had twisted the environmental issue in to a bank, and Liberals are banking on Your whole life, they are not public servants, they are public enemy No. 1.
    Also the property tax, Mayor Robertson send a letter to Christy trying to dissuade Her of Her plan to eliminate the home grant and to change the system of taxation and terminating that bogus system with BC assessment, But No! She had to have Her money, money money money, and what about Us? SCREW Me?
    It was said once by Stephen Harper, that it has to be a limit for taxing people, You can't just tax and tax until You drain all from Your fellow Canadians. This has to be illegal, this is antidemocratic if You ask Me.
    There must be a way to fight this.
     
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  6. the mechanic

    the mechanic Active Member

    ... excellent post, igor! i have some opinions about the dirty government in BC too ...

    ... the problem is that there is no oversight system to combat corruption in government in the province. why is this? because it requires LAWYERS to prosecute crime and if the lawyers are unwilling to go after government corruption-- which they clearly are -- then no action will be taken. the problem is, when you have a system that only allows attorneys to prosecute crime and you have a government operated by attorneys, as we do in BC, then crime will run rampant. the way i see it, christy isn't the real top dog in BC, the real king is the FINANCE MINISTER -- the one who is raking in all those billions in tax in victoria -- and yes, he is a lawyer! christy is just an innocuous-looking puppet for the bar ...

    ... lawyers are just too greedy, too insatiable and too malicious to be in control of the government considering the fact that it is pretty well impossible to prosecute them for crime since they are in charge of the justice system. they will never prosecute themselves. it's a conflict of interest to the extreme ...
     
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  7. igor

    igor Junior Member

    Thank you for that ample response, mechanic, is very logical and well explained.
    I guess that this abuse is going to continue, unless...?
    Any one else want to propose how an abused society cand defend its patrimony, quality of life, and the very important issue of the right to have a house?
     
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  8. Mikey

    Mikey Junior Member

    I'm sure many of us got our property assessments today and saw the increase. It basically means we will have to pay higher property taxes so that's a cash grab. I live in Burnaby, but my parents got their assessment and on the news, the saw that taxes had to cover the cost of putting more salt on the roads. I never saw their street salted.

    Nice city geographically, but I wish they would impose corporations and companies to give raises to help offset these increases, and please don't get me started on how bad MSP is
     
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  9. I'm not joking!

    I'm not joking! Junior Member

    Thank You mechanic, igor and Mickey for following up,
    the thing is that if there is a raise on wages or any change other than abolish the system of taxing properties based on market value, will never catch up with the overvalued real state market, the reason is that the bank of Canada is keeping the interest rates very low, and only the stupid bought the idea of buying a property for less instalments at lower interest mortgage, but the true is this low interest rates propelled property value way beyond the imagination and if You buy a house or any other property You are paying way more, and watch! this is a red flag, because is a trap, interest rates will soon go on the rise and banks and real state companies who are the biggest donors to the BC and Canadian Government are the winners and You are the looser.
    and don't get in to a deferment plan to pay You taxes because You only pay more, property taxes keep increasing You pay interest rates on instalments and the Government is making more money, this not the solution, the only solution here is a Democratic Majority push for the right to Own a home without feeling a threat of loosing it. write to the media, express You point of view, fight for Your Right to save Your home sweet home. I already sent My views to several BC networks, and You? DO YOUR PART! You all feel better if You do.
     
  10. flutterby

    flutterby Active Member

    What about property tax amounts based upon a percentage of income?...Many older people who are on pensions live in houses that have a high market value hence high property taxes.
     
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  11. igor

    igor Junior Member

    I don't really think that is an option, this will be under Government control again and they will find the way to get what they want from seniors or average Canadians, what I really think is that any property tax should be based on a strict control of natural resources income in the province, this natural resources should benefit all residents and not only big companies and government.
    But in a way I think that this situation is a our fault in part for the indifference shown during all this years with a system that abuses residents, and We voted again for the same political party that imposes burden on those who voted for the Liberal Party who has way of saying, "screw you" from now on We should learn, Our lesson and abolish the abusive and bring a new party that has to be fair and favour residents, but the rules have to change, this time if they stab You in the back, one mistake and You are Out.
    Furthermore the present government has to be accountable and give back to residents all the excess in taxes with interest paid. For Me this is the only way.
     
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  12. the mechanic

    the mechanic Active Member

    ... you are absolutely correct, flutterby. i wrote about this before on my website. for starters there SHOULDN'T BE a property tax in the first place since it is immoral to tax people simply for owning something, especially something as critical as a place to live. do renters have to pay a property tax? no. then why should owners have to pay?

    ... but if there is to be a property tax then it should be based on a person's means, their ability to pay, which would be based on income. as you say, it's absurd that a person should have to pay a fortune in ever-increasing annual tax on a home they may have purchased generations ago that had a very small annual tax attached to it initially. property tax is a total scam and it's got to change ...
     
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  13. I'm not joking!

    I'm not joking! Junior Member

    I find igor's plan more appealing, a strict control on natural resources to subsidize residents is the fair way to go, This way We are going to eliminate the intention of the government to take Your basic right to Own a home, no more BC assessment and no more "market value"
    Going for a taxation system based on You possibilities is involving residents in another spiral where We all risk to loose Our home, in other words. Kill the dog and end the rabies.
     
  14. the mechanic

    the mechanic Active Member

    ... i agree that BC assessment is a corrupt pig trough guilty of sending outright lies to homeowners through the mail. in addition to falsely claiming to know what my home is worth and falsely claiming to do an in-person annual assessment of my property they also give a totally phony formula for how my taxes are calculated ...
     
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  15. I'm not joking!

    I'm not joking! Junior Member

    well said mechanic, this is why we need a democratic push to abolish this blatant fraud to residents in the lower mainland. this basic right of having a home is denied to everyone of you with this system of taxing homes like if you are making money in the stock market having to pay taxes over a gain that doesn't exist
     
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  16. igor

    igor Junior Member

    Please sign the petition to fight High Property Taxes:
    https://www.taxpayer.com/resource-centre/petitions/petition?tpContentId=133

    To the Premier of British Columbia and Metro Vancouver Mayors:

    Housing costs in the Lower Mainland are out of control. But more taxes are not the answer. Instead, you need to cut back the 37% of housing costs that go to government.

    We, the undersigned, call on you to cut taxes, red tape, levies and fees to make housing more affordable for everyone.
     
  17. I'm not joking!

    I'm not joking! Junior Member

    What a disappointment to see that this government only sees as a solution more taxes, defusing public attention to the foreign property tax, and increasing the threshold to 1.6 to avoid losing your grant, but don't be deceived because the government is eyeing the best properties, (watch out North Shore residents) you are not avoiding the extra taxes that will put you in a bad spot and you will see higher taxes with the only intention to steal your home, we should keep pushing together for a democratic push for the right to own a house without the threat from the government, a home is a basic right that shouldn't be denied to Canadians.
     
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  18. I'm not joking!

    I'm not joking! Junior Member

    What a disappointment to see that this government only sees as a solution more taxes, defusing public attention to the foreign property tax, and increasing the threshold to 1.6 to avoid losing your grant, but don't be deceived because the government is eyeing the best properties, (watch out North Shore residents) you are not avoiding the extra taxes that will put you in a bad spot and you will see higher taxes with the only intention to steal your home, we should keep pushing together for a democratic push for the right to own a house without the threat from the government, a home is a basic right that shouldn't be denied to Canadians.
     
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  19. I'm not joking!

    I'm not joking! Junior Member

    What a disappointment to see that this government only sees as a solution more taxes, defusing public attention to the foreign property tax, and increasing the threshold to 1.6 to avoid losing your grant, but don't be deceived because the government is eyeing the best properties, (watch out North Shore residents) you are not avoiding the extra taxes that will put you in a bad spot and you will see higher taxes with the only intention to steal your home, we should keep pushing together for a democratic push for the right to own a house without the threat from the government, a home is a basic right that shouldn't be denied to Canadians.
     
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  20. igor

    igor Junior Member

    I'm not joking! Democracy is the victim of the rapists politicians, who only see a way to force you making laws to translate crime and oppression in to legal approved attacks to residents, like the intention to force you to use public transport, making prohibited to use your car, or to justify a dispossession like taking your home by means of Imposing a tax.
    I think that the existence of the Liberals in Canada will cease for their own abuse to Canadians.
    This goes for Richard Walton and Darrel muzzatto as well. And when this happen will be freed of the threat of loosing our homes.
     
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