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Arts & Culture Do you know the differences between Cantonese & Mandarin Chinese?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by maple leaf, Aug 1, 2015.

  1. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    Cantonese: short, skinny, loud, cheap, rude, uneducated.

    Mandarin Chinese : tall, strong, rich, quite, well educated.

    Cantonese pouring in Canada during 80's & 90's from HONG KONG when Mandarin Chinese took power of HONG KONG, a former british colony. Cantonese fled from HONG KONG to Canada because they prefer white masters than being ruled by the same race as themselves. most of those Cantonese & their family are uneducated, they immigrate to Canada to join their relatives who came to Canada 100 years ago.

    Mandarin Chinese didn't show up in Canada until after the year 2000, because the Canadian government didn't open its door to mandarin Chinese until 1995, and it usually takes more than 5 years for mandarin Chinese to get immigration permission, only when you can prove you are healthy, wealthy & well educated, and absolutely no criminal records, you can get immigration permission. The most majority of Mandarin Chinese immigrants come to Canada after year 2000, including myself, I landed Canada in 2003( I started my immigration application in 1996), I stayed in Vancouver for 2 months before returning to Mainland China. I came back to Canada in 2006 , because my daughter was 6 years old at that time & needed to start elementary school.

    From year 2000 to 2015, in only 15 years, China mainland has become economic superpower in the world, lots of mandarin Chinese get rich by their real estate properties, like myself, my family owns 4 houses in Beijing, these house increased their value 10 times more than they worth 15 years ago. economic booming make immigration to foreign countries much easier for mandarin Chinese, but language barrier hold lots of them back from moving out of mainland China, some mandarin Chinese immigrate to Canada but can't find decent jobs here, so they returned to mainland China to make money in order to support their family here in Canada.

    Some people may question why mandarin Chinese would rather stay in Canada without decent jobs than returning to their homeland, and a mandarin Chinese woman would live in Canada with her husband away on the other side of the planet. the answer from my point of view is: China has 1.3 billion population, there is not enough space for people who need fresh air & space more than anything else, to them, money or job is not as important as fresh air and less population environment.
     
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  2. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    most of my friends from mainland China have at least Master's degree, half of them have doctorate education but work at bottom level in Canada, like myself, I have a PhD degree, in China I am an news editor work for China's state owned central TV station, but in Canada I am nobody -- a sales associate in a retail store, sometimes be yelled at by rude customers who think they are superior than me.
     
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  3. Vivek Golikeri

    Vivek Golikeri Active Member

    Hongkongers did not flee because they preferred "white masters than being ruled by the same race as themselves." They fled because they preferred freedom to communism. You have a chip on your shoulder because Canada did not turn out right for you. Fine, I can understand your unhappiness. Yet not all Chinese in Canada have your story. Many have found a good life. And while many whites can be racist, many others are not.

    From your posts, I glean this consistent sentiment: "I am unhappy with Canada." Because you have burned your bridges, you cannot return. I'm afraid you will have to find your own solution to your unjolly circumstances.
     
  4. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    Come on, Hong kong used to be a British colony, do you know what it means by "colony'? you think that word means freedom? Why Hongkongers never flee from a colony for freedom when most of the colonies in the world have already freed themselves from British colony?

    You don't understand Hongkongers at all. I have worked with so many Hongkongers in the past 10 years, I have seeing them lie about everything & fight with each other all the time, they lie about their story because they want to get immigration permission, nothing more effective than the reason of "flee from communism to freedom" to get them a fast approval of Canadian immigration permission. and one thing they like most is to blame mainland Chinese for everything they have done to make Canadians dislike Chinese. don't forget, Cantonese have been living in Canada so many years, mainland Chinese only have lived here no more than 10 years, who is the one has established a bad picture of Chinese people by their behaviour?

    what you guys know about Chinese is actually Cantonese, not the real Chinese. That's why I posted a lot of YOUTUBE vidies to try to give you guys an idea of what is real China & Chinese. even "gong hei fa choi" is not what you guys know as a Chinese way of saying "happy new year", that is Cantonese, means "wish you make big money". A Chinese way of saying happy new year is "xin nian kuai le". which means happy new year. you got it?
     
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  5. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    Now millions of Hongkongers work and live in mainland China, they cheat, bribe, smarge, make huge money by selling heroin drugs, set up small factories & exploit mainland workers by pay lowest salaries. Hong Kong real estate icons buy land & properties cheap in mainland China and sell high to make huge profit for themselves but dramatically raised the price of real estate market to a degree even middle class Chinese cannot afford buying houses now. Hongkongers benefit from mainland China's not so strict business law, but they are no good to China & they are not welcome in mainland China.
     
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  6. Vivek Golikeri

    Vivek Golikeri Active Member

    Freedom is a relative thing, my friend. Compared to life under communism, life under British rule was still freer. And since you quote "gung hay fat choi," let me quote three other expressions. Moo goo gai pan, moo shoo foo goo, and don't forget goo goo gaa gaa.
     
  7. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    Have you ever lived in China? how could you know what life feels like in China? my life in China is pretty good, I have more freedom than I have in Canada. I am a self-made millionare, my money comes from my investment in real estate & stock market, and from my husband who is a businessman owns his own company. . you may see a lot of Chinese who have good life in Canada too, but I bet 90% of their money come from China, no from Canada.

    what do you mean by "freedom", if you don't have free space and free time to do whatever you want, to go wherever you want? from my point of view the basic meaning of freedom is financial independence, other than that freedom is a daydream.
     
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  8. Vivek Golikeri

    Vivek Golikeri Active Member

    Fair enough. Different values held by different persons. I am a writer and a poet, so for me freedom means the ability to share my creations without fear. Is there any way you could phase yourselves back to China and live comfortably there? You seem so frustrated with Canada.
     
  9. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    I don't know. maybe I will return to China in a few years, when my daughter gets in college, or wait till she graduate from college and build her own life here. when she no longer need a mother to take care of her, I may go back to Beijing, renovate my house, live a comfortable life with my husband, take care of my ageing parents as well. I do like Canada's natural environment a lot, and I meet a lot of friendly Canadians here too, but live here as a Chinese I can feel more or less not so friendly attitude, I am especially not happy with Cantonese people & their behaviour, I feel shamed for their loud speaking, rude manners...there are so many of them here representing Chinese people but actually they are not, they are just Cantonese, not Chinese.
     
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  10. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    Since Britain handed Hong Kong over to China in 1997, 18 year has past, has Hong Kong been turned into a communism society?
     
  11. Vivek Golikeri

    Vivek Golikeri Active Member

    No, I think Hong Kong has some kind of special arrangement with Beijing. Yet I don't care. I just don''t feel comfortable with something like Beijing or the Kremlin over me.
     
  12. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    From your point of view, I guess you belong to the old generation who still live with cold war mindset(no offence, just get that impression from your post). the world has changed dramatically, former Soviet Union has long gone, China still keep its regime under the name of communist party but has no intention to turn the world into communism, other than that, they only care about their own prosperity, to stand as a strong nation which will never be humiliated and invaded like the past centuries they have undergone, what the Chinese want is a peaceful growth to a politically, economically, culturally giant in the world.

    Even China is the number 1 in the world, I bet the Chinese are not interested in playing the world master role like the US has alway played ever since it becomes the superpower of the world. the Chinese certainly has no willingness to force other countrie to copy their development model or push the whole world to accept Chinese way of thinking or their lifestyle, like the Americans did to the Middle east and Asian & everywhere in the world. the whole world would be free from a control freak if China suppress the US, and every country has to learn to stand on its own feet, that's all.To those countries who rely on the US might be a little desapointed, but most independent countries like Canada should be fine with that.
     
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  13. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    This Harvard University scholar really read out Chinese people's mindset:

     
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  14. googlybear

    googlybear New Member

    "Cantonese fled from HONG KONG to Canada because they prefer white masters"

    I thought the japanese were the superior oriental race? That's why they allied with Germany because the Aryans were the white masters, and the Japanese were the Oriental super race.

    So why would hongkongers worship whites, when they can worship japanese as their gods?
     
  15. googlybear

    googlybear New Member

    So what happens if I marry a hongkong or mandarine woman? Does that mean she is a traitor for dating outside her race?

    Will that make our mixed white/asian kids mongrels? because they are not pure aryan or pure oriental?
     
  16. Vivek Golikeri

    Vivek Golikeri Active Member

    Many immigrants are more prejudiced than whites, and I tell them off. If they don't like their children marrying locals, they have no business settling in the country. I am sick and tired of the older generation from India shoving my Indian heritage down my throat. If Indians are not westernized they are okay for a business relationship, but I don't hang out with them.

    With non-Indian people I enjoy and take pride in my ethnicity. Go to an Indian restaurant with friends, bought a salwaar kameez years ago for my then-girlfriend. But with the old people from the Old Country, I tend to keep a distance.
     
  17. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    Japanese & Chinese has the same origin, from the same ancestor, they are the same race, only different countries. like white Americans & Canadians, they are from the same origin, the same race.
     
  18. maple leaf

    maple leaf Full Member

    I just want to tell you the differences between Mandarin Chinese & Cantonese, I don't have any prejudice towards marriage between different races.
     

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